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Professor Natalie Jeremijenko: New York University – ArtCrank Dat Soldier Boy! Just do it outside of class.
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March 18th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
ha! Love her reaction to the soldier boy comment!
March 18th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Jeremijenko is my fav!!
March 19th, 2008 at 10:20 am
doesnt really sound like she likes students
March 19th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
i like her accent
March 19th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
she’s so hott
March 20th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
so she doesn’t like students too much. so what? it’s not her job to kiss your *** and attend to your needs, it’s her job to a) work on her own research and projects and b) teach students effectively, which need not mean nicely. she’s not a high school teacher: in general, college professors at big schools like nyu are hired to conduct their own research AS WELL as teach. she’s not just a teacher.
March 22nd, 2008 at 3:13 am
As a fellow college professor, we’re *also* there to care for students. If you don’t give a rip about the lives and concerns of your students to where you’re creating a facade to avoid dealing with the unwashed masses with all of their problems, go to All Souls or the Institute for Advanced Studies where it’s not part of the job to care.
What a heartless thing to say about real people with real problems; that you fake being busy so that you won’t have to sully yourself with their issues. Horrible, horrible.
March 23rd, 2008 at 11:14 pm
In one breath, she says that she “erects a shield” to keep students from thinking that she has the time or interest to spend any great amount of time carrying on with them about their issues, and in another, she says to go to your professor if you’re having a problem. Personally, after watching those two middle responses she gave on the allegations of her being preoccupied and scatter-brained, I would be afraid to go to her if I ever were having trouble in her class.
March 24th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
what arrogance, the person who hired her should be fired. i don’t care what credentials she has, to undermine students by pretending to be busy is a pathetic excuse. all she is dong is hiding in the ivory ower because her people skills would not last five minutes in the business world.
March 26th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Oh Craigy-boy and the other whining students around here, come on, stop fooling around – the REAL BUSINESS WORLD…
Do you know what you’re talking about?
True scientific work only WORKS without too much pressure from stupid shareholders or fat selfish salesmen!
And btw what is your real world worth? Your business world heroes are right now producing a recession that will affect the western world, just because they wanted to see more and more bucks in THEIR own egoistic money bags.
Grow up and do your part and don’t criticise people that have already earned their status!
April 1st, 2008 at 7:55 pm
It’s very sad that someone needs to “erect a shield of business” to make themselves unavailable and make themselves feel important by avoiding their students. The fact also that she put this on camera means that she really doesn’t care about the repercussions of her actions and how her actions may effect her students. She seems to have a complete and total loss of pedagogy.
April 1st, 2008 at 11:24 pm
What a sad waste of office space
April 2nd, 2008 at 4:16 am
I agree with Matt. I would also like to say that any REAL professor wouldn’t worry about RESPONDING to someone talking **** about them online, but would rather use the feedback to better themselves as a teacher or disregard it as eggs thrown by some bitter student who couldn’t pull a D.
April 2nd, 2008 at 4:28 am
obviously a DUMB **** who has self esteem issues. probly just needs a hug from her dad.
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
BOTTOM LINE — she is a *****
April 3rd, 2008 at 10:40 am
“I’m not that interested. That’s not good use of my time.” What, teaching? Coddling students isn’t, but making sure they know how to do what you’re asking of them is part of teaching.
April 3rd, 2008 at 3:54 pm
This b itch is feisty. I’m getting kinda turned on…
April 6th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Hey, studentstopsobbing! Let me get this straight? It’s not ok for a business person to abuse his status to make more money, but it is ok for a professor to abuse her status to not even bother with her students? I agree with her that there are plenty of students who a professor just doesnt have time to deal with, but her way seems unfair to the students who work hard and genuinely want and need a little help once in a while.
And what gives you the right to make these assumptions about Craig? “Your business world heroes”? That is completely inappropriate in this conversation. We aren’t arguing the economy here. The point Craig was making, which may or not be valid, is his belief that those who can, do, those who can’t, teach. Obviously you have some issues about the economy, but please don’t waste all of our time by ranting about in a forum about professors’ conducts!
April 15th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
I don’t know how you guys are thinking this all through, but there are two ways of looking at this. 1) Yes she’s built up a shield just so she could run away from students and not talk about their problems. If she’s doing it simply because she doesn’t give a **** about the students and wholeheartedly wanting to teach because she loves teaching and helping others out, then yes that does make her a complete a**h***. BUT 2) If she’s putting up a shield because she doesn’t want to talk to the students who are really f***ed up in the head, then yes of course she isn’t required to talk to them. She isn’t your mama, she isn’t here to teach you how to deal with all the mean and cruel people in the world, and she isn’t here to hold your hand when you’ve made a booboo. If this is why she puts up her shield then KUDOS to her. I’m a 23 year old college student, and I have no respect for students who just don’t give a f*** about doing the actual work and study, and yes they deserve to fail in her class. In the BUSINESS WORLD, why should you be given money if you don’t do the work simply because you think it’s “too hard”? However, if she does it because she’s being a stuck-up b****, then yes she is a pathetic excuse of a teacher who ruins the integrity of what a professor should be, and she should be fired.
April 21st, 2008 at 12:18 am
ur shield’s obviously not working ***** you suck!
April 30th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
she is weird
June 7th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Wow, I love you.
June 28th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
She’s such a dominatrix!
I bet she got a hold of “Soldier Boy” on the DL.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Yeah, I’d **** ‘er!
June 28th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Wow. Mr. Jamba-djang Vladimir Ulysses Hope?
July 1st, 2008 at 1:05 am
OMG. Ok first of all its her job to make sure that she is available to help students in her class. Her last video there was appalling in the fact that she uses research to not help her students with their problems. If their problem is her class then theres the issue!!!! It seems like prof. expect us all to figure things out on our own with limited help from them. It is harder for some students than others. Why did they get into teaching in the first place? It was probably to help kids and teach what they love right? Guess I’m wrong there after reading these.
July 15th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
As a student, I sympathize with teachers who are expected elevate every student’s problem into the inflated drama that the student percieves it as. There is a time an place for dealing with these things and it’s called office hours. I can understand how teachers become jaded when they are expected to coddle students. This isn’t high school kiddies; time to deal with your own issues. When you see your teacher hurrying down the hallway and you figure now is the time have that hour chat about the reading you didn’t bother to do, rethink that thought. Becoming a pain in the a** probably won’t help your understanding of the subject matter or your grade.
July 16th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
dude she is hot
she totally turns me on
July 16th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
i’d bang her
July 17th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
She is the kind of person who likes bizarre sex and freaky stuff. She like to be dominant, especially to male. I don’t mind if she punish me silly all night.
July 28th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Doesn’t NYU cost something like $40,000/yr?
There is no way that I, as a paying customer, would tolerate that kind of indifference. Perhaps I would feel differently if I was in an art class taught by someone like Michelangelo Pistoletto. But, no little chippy wallowing in obscurity is going to give me the high hat.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:50 pm
it may be that she expects you to open the book yourself, and teach yourself while not making your issues her issues. Not everyones a kind and giving altruist.
August 8th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
If she is the typical representation of an NYU professor, that confirms the correct decision I made in turning down admission there several years ago when the tuition was already over $30k/year.
The way she speaks about erecting a shield to avoid dealing with her undergrad students is the very “don’t give a damn about the undergrads” mentality friends at NYU and other large universities complained and protested about when we were in college. A reason why I opted to attend a small private liberal arts college on a near-full scholarship.
Heck, I understand that Profs cannot coddle their undergrads….but her behavior reminded me of an incident a few years ago where I happened to be sitting in on a few classes at an Ivy university. In those classes, I was shocked and disgusted at how a few Ivy-league Profs literally ran out of their lecture halls as soon as class was over to avoid having to answer/deal with questions from their mostly undergrad students. Though I understand teaching and dealing with undergrads can be an unpleasant experience at times, if one has such disdain for dealing with undergrads, maybe she and other like minded Profs need to seriously consider a different career path.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:51 am
She is weird. I always wondered by anti-social professors who obviously hate teaching don’t just perform research projects independently and step away from the teaching arena. Part of being a college professor is mentoring young minds and assisting with their career efforts, as well as engaging individuals in strong educated conversation. Professors who walk in lecture and leave are a waste of time and money, just buy a tape recording I will listen to that rather than another monotone bald man trying to tell me he is supreme and I know nothing and his opinion is always right no matter what.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
There was an article on her in last Tuesday’s NYT. Evidently, she’s a force to be reckoned with. Her students should be more serious, and then maybe they’d get the time of day (and more). Just an idea.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
She is a teacher because she likes what it does for her and not for her students. Also, all you professors posting stuff on here agreeing with that mindset suffer from the same delusions that your time is worth something–it’s actually worth only what students will pay for it in tuition. Your time is really their time.
What is the purpose of education? To produce titles and status for professors? This teacher seems to actually believe that which makes her a joke. All you other teachers who believe that are even worse because you’ve got a glaringly obvious bad example in streaming video right above where you post your comments and you still post them. You are therefore doubly ignorant even worse jokes than Dr. Stick-up-her-***. This forum gives YOU the chance to learn and improve–not your students–and if you still can’t see that then you need to find another job.
If a teacher can’t convey a meaningful message and be well respected by his or her students and meet their needs (which they are paying for by the way), then that teacher is a poor one indeed. Find a way be a teacher. Period.
All you teachers who took offense to this post instead of rallying behind it, please refer to the following comments from one of your peers:
http://www.mtvu.com/video/?vid=230020
August 18th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Sound like some of ya’ll weird New York people like the strange teacher a little too much she does not sound smart because her brain is too old and that is were her brain stopped evolving, probably late 60’s. Come on students are smarter in general that the retards who teach us. Teachers are only smart in one field and that’s if they keep up with the times.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
In response to comments like her being a “little chippy wallowing in obscurity”, Jeremijenko is a preeminent contemporary artist and a brilliant scientist, with international recognition for her work- that’s the reason I’ve heard of her. She is experienced in biochemistry, physics, neuroscience, precision engineering, and visual arts, and has won several awards for her art, design, inventions, and engineering. That doesn’t necessarily make her the best teacher, but it does prove that she has the credentials to know what she’s talking about. Yeah, maybe she’d rather just work on her own sh*t, but NYU, Yale, and UCSD probably force her to teach a class or two so they can brag about their top-rate professors.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:16 pm
*sigh* typical “art” teacher.
August 25th, 2008 at 1:16 am
When she makes love, does she call out her own name?
August 28th, 2008 at 7:06 am
**** her！
August 28th, 2008 at 7:08 am
Fu*ck her！！！
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:20 am
Re: ” little chippy wallowing in obscurity”
- Perfect analysis.
Re: “There was an article on her in last Tuesday’s NYT. Evidently, she’s a force to be reckoned with.”
- Evidently, your brain has been f***** by an iguana with AIDS.
Re: “Jeremijenko is a preeminent contemporary artist and a brilliant scientist, with international recognition for her work. She is experienced in biochemistry, physics, neuroscience, precision engineering, and visual arts, and has won several awards for her art, design, inventions, and engineering.”
- Blah blah blah. Yeah, and that mor*nic windbag Gore has a Nobel Prize and an Oscar. And that lying $cumb*g m*ron Obama has a grammy. Who gives a flying ***?
She’s also a dumb@$$ ignorant b****, and all your sucking up is [probably] not going to get her to lick your c***/c***.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:11 am
so first she says she pretends to be scatter brained as a shield for when students come up to her after class and she doesnt have time to talk to them.. then she says that students should talk to their profs after class if theyre having trouble instead of writing stuff online..
September 6th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
CHEESE I TELL YA! CCHHEESSEE!!
September 9th, 2008 at 7:59 am
What a feministic psycho.
September 9th, 2008 at 11:45 am
What’s a “feministic psycho”? Norman Bates’ mother?
September 9th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
She’s got too much time on her hands. It can’t be good…
September 10th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
She doesn’t have time to answer the students’ questions? But can find time to post come back videos about negative comments. There are certain things I don’t agree with this website (like the chilli pepper icon); professors who are genuine and caring about their students’ education should throw away cruel remarks, but can use this website to better themselves as well if students post constructive criticism or if two or more comments appear similar. If a professor has 70 percent (and depending on how big of a University or College it is) of good comments, chances are, they are at least decent professors. Not every professor is compatible with every student.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:07 am
TK,
Do you really think she should make herself available 24/7? She has office hours, and class time. She is not required to give anymore of her time to students. If you think professors get paid to teach and only teach, you are living in a fantasy world. Teaching, especially for researchers, is a small part of their duties.
Yes, you are expected to “figure things out on your own”. This is not HS where you get spoon fed.
September 21st, 2008 at 7:15 am
As a high school teacher, I think it’s interesting how many people assume we “spoon feed” students. I know many HS teachers who refuse to do so!!!
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:06 am
It is truly amazing how people have absolutely no comprehension about simple statements. What is even more amazing is that these people apparently got admitted into a university or college. I am hoping it is a community college, and not a real university.
She never said she wouldn’t talk to a student about class issues. The people who think they are being clever by finding a contradiction between saying to get help if you are having class problems and her not wanting to be bothered with personal ****, need to go back to grade school. She said it is not a good use of her time to waste it listening to them whine about personal issues, not class issues. Most universities have counseling if they need it. Professors are not trained or equipped to dish out personal counseling.
I don’t know what is more frightening, that these people got into a college or will likely graduate. Either way, it bodes ill for the future.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
For those who don’t know:
If you want a prof who’s willing to help you out, don’t go to huge research universities like NYU!!
October 4th, 2008 at 5:50 am
It’s sad that an “art” professor would say things like “I don’t care about my student’s personal life, I erect a shield avoid those students”. People like that shouldn’t be teaching in the first place..
Fortunately for me, my art professor is not a little ****** like her.
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:34 pm
No time for students? God invented reverse cowgirl for women like this. You make them do all the work and you need not see her face during the act. Erect a panty shield!!!
December 4th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that it actually teaches students about responsibility and consequences to have their instructors require them to figure things out on their own. The purpose is not to have an instructor tell a student exactly what to do, and then have the student do it. Any idiot should be able to do that. The purpose is to prepare student for career responsibilities.
If you are ‘the new guy’ writing for the local newspaper, and your editor wants you to write a story about some event, they do not want to do all the work themselves and then have you type it and put your name under it. You have to ‘figure it out.’ It may or may not be a decent article in thier eyes, and they may make you rewrite it. Someone needs to teach students about responsibility and make them open to criticism.
If you want to try and get a job where someone tells you exactly what to do, and you just do it exactly, then get a job at a factory, and leave college.
However, people really do have huge problems, and it does affect their classes. Sometimes it leads them to recieve an ‘unacceptable’ grade. It happens. Get over it. If you are a parent, and you have to leave work twice per week because your kid is sick or acting up at school, that is not your fault either. But you will (in most careers) get repremanded for it or worse. Luckily, in college, there are usually ways to help yourself get back on track. Talk to the counciling center about your issues, talk to the registrar’s office about retaking the course (if your school does that), talk to the financial aid office about getting your financial aid back, and ask each of them who to take your appeals to. THAT IS THEIR JOB. Not your instructors job.
December 13th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
She says she doesn’t have time to deal with students’ problems, but then she has time to make and upload these videos of herself. Interesting excuse for acting like an ivory tower c*nt. –Oh, who pays your salary, lady?
January 4th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
So glad I don’t go to school with you morons – you shouldn’t even be in a university – you obviously couldn’t pass the basic English proficiency exams – you’re so lacking in the English language that ya’ need to use profanity constantly. Go back to high school and learn something.
July 4th, 2009 at 5:12 am
arrogance much? mm i would avoid her if i were you
July 16th, 2009 at 2:46 am
I agree, when you are paying 250+ per credit hour, the professors should be approachable if you really don't understand part of the lecture, reading, ect.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:49 am
what I mean by approachable, is being able to meet with them during office hours and get in contact with them if for whatever reason you are unavailable during their office hours.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
So, the kids that go to NYU are supposed to put themselves and their parents in debt(if they aren't wealthy) to go to a school where they have to teach themselves? Am I understanding you correctly?
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:04 am
There are two categories of teachers: Those who teach because they like it and care about their students…and those that don't. She is obviously in the latter category. I wish people would stop trying to defend teachers who obviously don't give a damn.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:31 am
"The people who think they are being clever by finding a contradiction between saying to get help if you are having class problems and her not wanting to be bothered with personal ****, need to go back to grade school."
Perhaps you are the one that should return to grade school. She said, "I have a shield of busyness that I actually erect to mitigate students approaching me and thinking that I am available to spend a long time talking about their particular problems or medical certificates etcetera. "
At the end, she said : "All of us have been students; certainly professors have been students. It's very easy, if you don't do well in a class or are not following it to blame the professor. It's absolutely a normal thing to do. However, if you go to the professor and talk to them about the difficulties that you are having and confront them about the things that you don't like, there is the chance of really learning something."
These two comments are obvious contradictions to each other. Why? Because, she never made the distinction between personal issues and class issues. She used the phrase "particular problems". If she meant "personal issues", she should have clarified that. So, if that was not the case and if people think that she is an unacceptable professor because of this, it is her fault for misrepresenting herself. Basically, she had no business doing this video because she confirmed the validity of every complaint that was addressed here.
Furthermore, what's more frightening is the rising number of pretentious individuals such as yourself that think they know more than they do. You are the reason why "professors" like her exist.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Wow, I love her English-Russian accent.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Dear Matt,
You're not my teacher, but after reading this post of yours, i wish you were! I have been waiting so very long to come across a teacher who thinks like you do/regards students as you do. Thank you so much for letting everyone know that teachers SHOULD care!
Thank you sooooo much! Based on your comment, i'd say the world could use more teachers like you, and others could follow your lead!
August 17th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
What it sounds like to me is that most of you children obviously are not ready for college. Maybe you go work in the real world for a few years and then go back to school after you wipe the snot off of your noses. Maybe you are too stupid, too lazy or too something to open your books and study. It is my experience that a college professor is just their to present the material to you and then you have the book if need to learn how to read or study then you are not ready for college .
August 17th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Lol if you go to the professor you have a chance of learning something UNLESS SHE HAS ERECTED HER SHIELD!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:25 am
I don’t agree with the statement, if you can, DO if you can’t, TEACH.
That’s very offensive to the people who actually want to help others learn, and do a damn good job of it.
I agree that it is sometimes the case that people who can’t do anything will their degree will resort to teaching. But I know a lot of teachers who work very hard and are wonderful at what they do. If nobody wanted to teach, think how many more people in the world would be ignorant and uneducated.
September 18th, 2009 at 4:45 am
Ricci, your comment can be tailored just a little bit further:
There are two types of professors: those that care more about teaching and those that care more about their research. Of course there are those in between somewhere as well.
Unfortunately, many professors put their research first. Obviously their "contribution to mankind" can be pretty substantial, especially in the sciences. For students taking classes, it's always preferable to have a professor that truly cares about teaching and wants to help students succeed.
September 20th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Teachers care about real problems such as not understanding a passage of Euripides, or realizing your thesis sucks, or using a theorem you think properly which did not work. They don't care about love lives, physical ailments, or parents' getting divorces because they are not trained counselors and nine time out of ten those are just excuses for late work.
September 25th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I completely agree with you. Why become a teacher if you don't like people? It doesn't make any sense. It's too bad more professors aren't like you.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Ok. Hold it. A teacher is not a professor. These are two different things. If you want to be a teacher, you take some ed and psych courses, you get a B.A. in a subject, do some student teaching, take those Praxis exams, and voilà, you are now qualified to stand before children ages 5-18 and pontificate.
If you want to be a professor, you go to school until there is no more school, you perform original research and write your results in a significant document, then spend the rest of your life fending off assaults on your ideas and methods. Oh, yeah. You teach college kids, too. If you're lucky (unlucky), adults (grad students).
In the first case, you get a master's (>L., teacher, big shot); in the second, you get a doctorate (>L., having been taught, made docile).
Remember in Georg Büchner's "Woyzeck," when the Doctor/Scientist shows his imperviousness to the human condition but reacts to a hypothetical lizard becoming ill? I don't want to deal with sick notes, boyfriend problems, and life's assorted little pitfalls. I didn't sign on for that. Come to class, do your work, get your grade, God be with you.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
she is really quite pathetic isn't she now
October 11th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
She "puts up a shield" to avoid being rude and yet is calling students out for posting feedback online rather than telling it to her face?
October 20th, 2009 at 7:14 am
if your having a crappy day, thats what a councillor is for, professors are there to teach. If you dont understand the work, thats what a tutor is for. tutors help sith homework, teachers teach and councillors deal with your feelings. Know the role of organization in the world and youll be fine.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I feel the same.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Even her video responses are scatter brained. She first tells us that she "erects a shield of busyness" to mitigate students coming to her about problems, and then in her next consecutive video she says if we confront our teachers with our difficulties then we have a chance of learning something.
So, she wants us to speak to our professors about problems, but she herself erects a shield of busyness to block that out? Absolute rubbish.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Heh-heh!
She said 'erect'